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Thursday, February 9th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 8 2012, 03:11 PM (9,990 Views)
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Thursday, February 9th

stef home playing chess by himself
in the dark
kate comes in and turns the light on
cook wants to know if we are going to eat in or out
he says doesnt matter
she wants to know whats wrong
he says nothing
she says he is a liar
you are thinking about what alice put in the envelope
he says she is right
she says she knows he is upset
but its nothing compared to the special hell he has created for john and marlena and bo and hope, and now john and hope are
married , the past is coming back to haunt them

john and hope and bo and marlena are all together at the apartment
they talk about the marriage certificate
waiting for carrie to call them back
to see what it will take to get the marriage annulled,should be open and shut , not like either of them will contest it
john says there might be a lot of red tape to cut through
Hope says one day we will laugh about this
marlena says im not so sure about that

Madison in her room calling someone
brady shows up with flowers
all dressed up nice in a suit

Ej is in his bedroom, sitting on his bed
reading , glasses on
Nicole comes in and says your father was brooding over the chess board, so i thought i would come up here and go over this
he says yeah good idea
she says your father is not the only one brooding is he?i dont know if polls will cheer you up but they arent as bad as they could be
he says i dont want to talk about polls right now
she says well you have to
he says no i dont cuz as of this moment im not running for mayor
she says what do you mean you are dropping out of the race?ok so
polls arent as great as we hoped and the debate didnt go as well as we hoped it would but so what , abe gave you a bad questions
he says im not dropping out of the race, i said as of this moment
im not running for mayor
i dont want to talk about politics anymore , i dont want to talk about statistics or polls , id like to talk
about how beautiful my wife is
my pr person can go somewhere else
i dont want to talk about politics
rather focus on your domestic
issues, he kisses her
she says
domestic issues are always central to a successful campaign
he says im glad we are on the same page
they kiss


madison loves the flowers
he asks if she is free
she says yes
he says good you have a very important date tonight
he made a reservation
she kisses him

stef says i like the way you put a positive spins on things
mr and mrs john black
bo and hope must be going through hell now and there
nothing to worry about as far as what alice has in the envelope
what you dont know cant hurt you
kate says so we agree not to talk about the elephant in the room
he asks about work
she tells him she is glad she hired sami
she not only brought madison secrets, she has good ideas of her own
Stef says he isnt surprised , she is her mothers daughter

marlena says we all know stefano,the worse thing to do is to underestimate him , sure he thought long and hard about what went into that envelope
Hope says the marriage can be annulled it doesnt mean anything
this isnt worth the paper its printed on
bo says its not like stefano to count on this paper to hold its value
john says might be more to this than we think
bo says we should go talk to him and tell him we have this
john says and see how he reacts to it
marlena says we should all go together

stefs doorbell rings
bo and friends come in to the house
kate says she loves it when friends stop by lets pop some corn
hope says you think this is funny,we dont
stef says you seem upset mrs brady i didn try to warn you
kate says try to be a bit more delicateyou can imagine how devastating this must be to john
stef says i tell my wife everything, its a basis of a good marriage
dont you and john, i mean bo
discuss everything, i mean what a horrible way for him to find out what you did


ej and nicole are in bed now
he says are you
still thinking about politics
she says no just thinking about some of the things we just did might shock your constituency
he says i dont give a damn about my constituency at the moment
just you
she says well thats good thing
he says i wanted you to know
i know how lucky i am to be here with you
to have you in my life
she says this is true
he says im not going to do anything to risk loosing you
she says are you implying that i might
he says , we are cut from the same cloth you and me
can you imagine you imagine you and i the first family of salem , my goodness
she says we will knock them dead

madison gets dressed in a nice dress
they chat about her not taking the ceo job and she says she has no regrets


ej and nic still in bed
she says im hungry
they laugh
he says him too
she says now that you have teken complete advantage of me
its time for you to buy me some dinner
save room for desert
she gets up
he sighs

brady and madison go to the square for dinner
he says this is where we first met
he remembers how she played along so well when he thought she was the hostesses here
the waiter brings champagne
brady wants this to be a night that she will remember
brady makes a toast
to the most beautiful woman i have ever met

Bo says your games arent going to work even if the certificate is valid
stef says of course it is, but you already know that otherwise you would not be here
john says whats in t for you
back when you had hope and me under control you could have done some real damage , but what now after all these years
Hope says bo is my husband ,marlena is johns wife that piece of paper is just an annoying technicality , so as soon as we take care of it , it will be as if it never existed
Stef says but it is whats in your heart that really counts isnt it?
As long as everything is in order,you dont need me now do you
marlena says i dont understand why you think this is great little bargaining chip, we
knew about it, we dealt with it, its ancient history
can be dealt with quite legally
stef says if thats the case there was no reason to lock it up all those years ago
right
if you really believed that you would not be here now

brady says he has something to ask her
she thinks he is trying to get her to work for basic black
he says no nothing to do with business
he feels like he has known her forever
even though it hasnt been that long
he says he gave up on the idea
of finding anyone
he thinks about her all the time
when he wakes up and he always wakes up happy now
no one has ever made him feel the way she does
he gets down on one knee
and shows her a ring
says madison will you marry me


ej and walk in to the square and see brady down on one knee
proposing to madison
nicole looks uncomfortable

madison says this was the last thing i expected
he says i love you
she says i love you too
she stands up and hugs him

ej says did that bother you
she says no why would it
he says nicole?
she says ok a little
he says its ok
kisses her head
she looks so sad

Bo says we are here to find out what you think you are going to gain from all of this
Stef says nothing
did you remember how i tried to convince you not to open the box
Kate says are you 2 kids going to write your own vows this time around?
stef says when you bring up the annulment , it could bring up the other question
john says like what?
Stef says i would love to tell you but no one here wants to hear it
kate says oh no, i do, i cant wait to hear

ej says that bothers you?
She says yes but not because i want to be with brady
they are getting engaged
he says so it bother you brady is getting marred
she says no you know how badly i react to other women being happy
he says but
she isnt going to be happy she is marrying Brady
Nic says she seems happy
he says she is crying, sort of the preview for the rest of her life
nic says she is crying cuz she is thrilled, this is the most wonderful moment in her life filled with love , hope happiness and promises
he says and its all down hill from there

Brady says looks like we have an audience
nic says they see us
Ej says oh really, thats the worse thing about being a politician ,is
you have to go and be nice to people, come on

Hope says what is it you think we dont want to hear
stef says not hear, admitting
john says admitting what?
Stef says the discovery that you and Hope are married will rekindle Bos anxiety bout you having made love to his wife once
and it will also rekindle his anger knowing it didnt come out too good i tried to keep this a secret
so you wouldnt have to worry that hope was thinking about john
when she was making love to you
and that it wasnt too good on your part
Bo says you are a bastard
marlena says stefano we know what you are trying to do and its not going to work this time

stef says what is it that im doing
you are here in my living room,i didnt come seeking you out
marlena i dont want to hurt you and i know how hard that word is thats going
marlena says please dont even reach for it
he says but i know your brain power is
you cant find it in the world that is strong enough to be able to change 2 people , force them to do something they would never do
i cant make them get married unless it was something they really want to do

ej and nicole go over brady
Ej says we couldnt help notice
that you were down on one knee
and you had a ring, i hope congratulations are in order
he shakes bradys hand and says congratulations
Brady thanks him
nic says we hope you both will be very happy , im sure you want to be alone
brady dont forget to change your status
she walks away
Ej follows

brady says i havent got an answer from you yet

john says we know you will do anything to destroy what bo and hope have and what me and marlena have
Hope says you will never have anything like it
not falling for your mind games
kate says you are all protesting a little too much
Stef says marlena you are not bothered that john took sacred vows with Hope and then went through an entire wedding ceremony with you shortly after
bo says they had no idea they were married
stef says would they tell you if they did
you are taking this info so well thinking like what the hell there is nothing to worry about

ej and nic go to a table to eat
nic keeps looking over at brady
EJ says if this is bothering you we can go some place else
she says no,im fine brady is a part of my past i moved on and i dont want to look back

madison says this is all so sudden im overwhelmed
he says its ok take all the time you need
she says im sorry i know you are disappointed
he says you could never disappoint me
he understands , he gets it thought he would never take the step again either
but everything changed when he met he rand fell in love with her
he didnt expect her to say yes tonight
wants her to take her time
she said it was a bit of a surprise but she is happy that he asked her
she is touched and she will
give her answer soon

marlena says lets go
we found out what we came to learn
the situation is what we thought it was its a
sad old man who wants to feel powerful by revisiting his past triumphs
so sad
stef says thats not bad almost believable
Marlena says did you open the envelope and
find out what alice has on you
Hope says he wont tell anyone it will haunt him forever
they leave

Ej and Nicole sit in silence
she keeps looking at brady
EJ says clearly something is bothering you , if it isnt Brady is it me
she says in a way it is

kate says you were magnificent
he says im glad you think so
she says im impressed with the way you stay one step
ahead of your enemies
he says they tried to put up a good front
but by the time they left they were shaken
this is just beginning
there is much more to come that they dont know anything about
the road to the annulment is fraught with peril
by the time they get it maybe they wont want it
stay tuned
kate goes to talk to cook
stefano looks worried

brady and madison go home
she says this is a night ill never forget
she asks him to come in
he says not tonight

ej says it is me
ok
have i done something to disappoint you
she says ej it is not something you can help
ever since i was a little girl i wanted that story book romance
the thing that only happens in fairy tales,where the prince rides up on his white horse and sweeps me off my feet
it only happens in childhood fantasies
he smiles

bo and friends go home
marlena says the worse thing we can do is let him know he has us worried
john gets a call
he says this isnt going to be as easy as i thought

stefano opens his desk drawer
and takes out the envelope
he sits at the desk
and thinks about what Hope said

Brady thinks she needs time alone without distractions
to decide what her answer is going to be
he loves her no matter what
she decides
he kisses her goodnight
she goes in and closes the door
and an old man says hello my darling
i have been waiting for you
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This John/Hope story is shitty. Period.



Edited by AFaithL, Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM.
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Ellie


Thanks Skye. Ugh this Jope story is just so STUPID! It's like the writers are grasping at random elements of past stories that worked rather than taking the time to actually construct one now. What, is Carrie going to tell them that with all her U of Switzerland law knowledge, she's familiar with the rare legal precedents in 'Alamania'? I also think it's distracting to not have an overall tone to the show. This story is very sci-fi-ish, which is fine in and of itself, but then you have Sami having cheated on Rafe because she thought her son was dead because John's creditors (or something) shot at him. Then you have a campaign story which is definitely going for "ripped from the headlines" type of things. Where does this fit in??
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Sounds like a good episode I am going to find the Stefano/Kate Bo/Hope John/Marlena scenes very entertaining. I did not think that Kate would be there for the confrontation but I am glad that she is. She is still standing by Stefano. Looks like Kate was getting a kick out of watching Stefano play games with them, magnificent was the word she used.

Nicole seems bothered by the proposal guess she may still be harboring some feelings for Brady that she does not want Ej to know about.

Stefano is still worrying about that envelope he really should just open it but he is just as worried as to what his envelope will reveal as Hope was worried as what hers will reveal. Stefano it putting on a brave front he does not want anyone to know that he is scared too. He is thinking that whatever is in there that it will impact his life in a big way.

Stefano is deflecting by playing mind games with John/Marlena Bo/Hope because he is really scared right now but he does not want to show it. Whatever is in that envelope it must be bad bad bad. He doesn not want them to find out what is in his envelope.

Stefano told Kate that it is not over what else are they all going to find out. It's not over for them well it's not over for Stefano either.


Ian is here let the games beigin kids!!!!!! Can't wait to see what he brings.

I am going to enjoy this episode with the exception of the Brady/Madison stuff I just am not feeling them. I don't really think that the Ejole stuff will be stellar to me either we see so much of them already.
Edited by Virgo Twins, Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM.
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Thanks for posting. Blah, lots of talking about nothing in the J&M/Bope/State scenes. I can't believe they're going with "insecurities" and "rekindled feelings" for J&M and Bope - that's the best they could come up with? Total utter bullshit. And I guess before the 99 J&M wedding (and before Subsex) there was a 5 minute window where John/Hope (as Gina...that's what they're going with right?) got married. As if Gina didn't muck up that wedding enough the first time around, now they're sneaking in a secret marriage in "Alamania" between the 2.
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I'm not saying it's not stupid because it clearly is, but I kind of got a kick out of Stefano and his vaguely ominous pronouncements. At least it feels like they are setting up for there to be more to the story. I realize that many people don't want there to be more to the story and I can understand that. But, for me, at least it gives hints that they aren't going with the idea that the brainwashed marriage is, by itself, the big problem.

Plus, Stefano's vaguely ominous pronouncements always make me giggle.
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bstreis
Feb 8 2012, 03:31 PM
Total utter bullshit. And I guess before the 99 J&M wedding (and before Subsex) there was a 5 minute window where John/Hope (as Gina...that's what they're going with right?) got married. As if Gina didn't muck up that wedding enough the first time around, now they're sneaking in a secret marriage in "Alamania" between the 2.
ROFL I know. Every 2 seconds they cut from 'Marlena the bride who's waited 13 years to remarry this guy' to 'Gina in a dog collar necklace'. It was like, WE GET IT, SHE'S UP TO SOMETHING, KTHX.
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Oh and the mind games planting seeds of doubt is SOOOOOO stupid. How is that even believable given everything J&M have been through together? Oh John married Gina right before he married Marlena under mind control but maybe, just maybe there are feelings there between John and HOPE? Like how does that even make any sense? If there's any kind of jealousy over John's feelings for someone else it would be Gina, not Hope as Gina. Stupid.
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Sounds like Nicole senses/knows Ej is hiding something from her. I just wish the stupid beastsex would just come out already.
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How can Stefano see the chess board he is playing chess in the dark?
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esp13
Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM
I kind of got a kick out of Stefano and his vaguely ominous pronouncements.
I'm getting annoyed at Kate as "Mrs. Stefano", not that I liked her in the first place. I think the Ian stuff will actually do her character some favors. I don't think she was ever the Mob Wife type, and I think they're just writing her to match what Joe's doing right now, or at least that's how Lauren seems to be playing it.
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Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM
Oh and the mind games planting seeds of doubt is SOOOOOO stupid. How is that even believable given everything J&M have been through together? Oh John married Gina right before he married Marlena under mind control but maybe, just maybe there are feelings there between John and HOPE? Like how does that even make any sense? If there's any kind of jealousy over John's feelings for someone else it would be Gina, not Hope as Gina. Stupid.
Let it out, bstreis.

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I liked the scene at the HTS alot . If Nicole had been alone I think it would have been bad for Ejole and Bricole angst. Nicole isnt harboring any feelings for Brady. :eyeroll: That wasnt what the scene was about. She and EJ talked like two married people dealing with an issue in their marriage. Nicole knows EJ is keeping something from her and its big. She looks at Brady and Madison thinking they have something soo perfect. Little does she know. :laugh: cant wait to see those scenes. they sound awsome. I bet EJ does something romantic for Nicole. :wub:

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Absolute crap and stupid ass Kate is there so I'll be skipping this one, I can't stand looking at that geriatric Bratz Doll wannabe.
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Ellie
Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM
bstreis
Feb 8 2012, 03:31 PM
Total utter bullshit. And I guess before the 99 J&M wedding (and before Subsex) there was a 5 minute window where John/Hope (as Gina...that's what they're going with right?) got married. As if Gina didn't muck up that wedding enough the first time around, now they're sneaking in a secret marriage in "Alamania" between the 2.
ROFL I know. Every 2 seconds they cut from 'Marlena the bride who's waited 13 years to remarry this guy' to 'Gina in a dog collar necklace'. It was like, WE GET IT, SHE'S UP TO SOMETHING, KTHX.
It was ridiculous. And now we're meant to believe that she and John were already married at that point. Why would she even let John go along and marry Marlena, spend a few days in Hawaii just to kidnap him later to retrigger the chip and have him be ThePawn for 2.5 seconds, just enough for a screw? Why not just stay in Alamania with her brain chipped husband and live happily there...and how far is Alamania that John/Gina managed to get away from Salem 7 days prior to the wedding for a quicky wedding of their own? I don't even know why I care, I'm not watching any of this crap anyway, lol.
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Wow Brady sure moved fast....I LOVE LOVE LOVE EJOLE, no matter their scenes. There always seem like there's more to how they interact than just typical loving/fighting/scheming.

Is Alamania even a real country? I'm so not invested in this story at all. Every other character seema to be going through a legitimate crisis of sorts, whether self inflicted or not but with this quad...it all seems superficial because the writers will never dare swap partners and actually tell a story (dare I say character driven instead of plot drivel). A month from now it would be as though they never knew about the Alice's secret.
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Ellie
Feb 8 2012, 03:38 PM
bstreis
Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM
Oh and the mind games planting seeds of doubt is SOOOOOO stupid. How is that even believable given everything J&M have been through together? Oh John married Gina right before he married Marlena under mind control but maybe, just maybe there are feelings there between John and HOPE? Like how does that even make any sense? If there's any kind of jealousy over John's feelings for someone else it would be Gina, not Hope as Gina. Stupid.
Let it out, bstreis.

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Stefano: [reading from the Burn Book] Marlena Evans married John Black! And so did Hopina!
Marlena: [in Alamanian] You little slut!
Hopina: You're the slut!
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bstreis
Feb 8 2012, 03:40 PM
Ellie
Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM
bstreis
Feb 8 2012, 03:31 PM
Total utter bullshit. And I guess before the 99 J&M wedding (and before Subsex) there was a 5 minute window where John/Hope (as Gina...that's what they're going with right?) got married. As if Gina didn't muck up that wedding enough the first time around, now they're sneaking in a secret marriage in "Alamania" between the 2.
ROFL I know. Every 2 seconds they cut from 'Marlena the bride who's waited 13 years to remarry this guy' to 'Gina in a dog collar necklace'. It was like, WE GET IT, SHE'S UP TO SOMETHING, KTHX.
It was ridiculous. And now we're meant to believe that she and John were already married at that point. Why would she even let John go along and marry Marlena, spend a few days in Hawaii just to kidnap him later to retrigger the chip and have him be ThePawn for 2.5 seconds, just enough for a screw? Why not just stay in Alamania with her brain chipped husband and live happily there...and how far is Alamania that John/Gina managed to get away from Salem 7 days prior to the wedding for a quicky wedding of their own? I don't even know why I care, I'm not watching any of this crap anyway, lol.
LOL! But.. right? I don't get it either. "Alamania" is probably near "Aremid". It makes no sense at all. And I'm sure everyone from Salem will eventually end up there, like "Northern Ireland" in early 2008.
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Feb 8 2012, 03:44 PM
Stefano: [reading from the Burn Book] Marlena Evas made out with John Black! And so did Hopina!
Marlena: [in Alamanian] You little slut!
Hopina: You're the slut!
Hah! Love it!
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The best will be if they scrawl "Alamania" across the bottom of the screen in some Microsoft Word font.
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